Brutal horrific genocide legalised... Bloody badge of liberation endorsed... Morals binned... Fabric of society overturned... Other horseshit spouted to cloak religious dogma reiterated...
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6 days ago
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Well a German once told me that there was no such word in his language. What a fibber!
But anyway I'm amused to read that the residents of that town (Fucking) considered changing its name because of the embarrassment, e.g. busloads of tourists arriving there and so on. But they finally decided not to. Which was a good commercial decision. A decision showing that when it comes to hard cash no embarrassment is too great.
And morality, what's that?
Bugger off!
Good on us Anglophones! We make fun of all other cultures in a very non-discriminatroy fashion, it would seem.
Now I have a ministerial to slap together, and can only write until the end of my near-finished coffe, but you well know I view this link as spurious horseshit because the right never puts its money, literally its money, where its mouth is.
As an aside Hitchens is contrarian, Steyn is just gleefully reactionary.
He hits a number of good points. Ms Hungry Jacks in fact is having more kids than Ms Collins St, so if we gut and under-resource the public schools, public hospitals and social support services the likes of Ms Hungry Jacks will use to raise their kids, what the hell is THAT doing for our future?
You can use carrot, rather than taking away choice. That would be the intelligent, civilised, and liberal, even libertarian, approach.
See..
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,18176748%255E1702,00.html
Twenty years ago when the yuppies started the small family craze the fear was that the big-family lower-orders would overwhelm them.
Now it's the Muslims.
That article is poorly written. Really bad.
It shows how good some bloggers are.
They're very good indeed.
Given that I did, completely, you have just demonstrated why arguing, and more particularly arguing with right wingers, can be such a pointless affair.
The silliest statement Steyn makes is that the British Empire came about because of enormous manpower.
What a joke.
Maybe it had something to do with national character instead? Superior technology, too?
And being a seafaring nation?
Apart from that, this bloke's attempts at being funny are embarrassing.
He's a dope.
I'm afraid of offending no one. You'd be the least I'd worry about.
A leftist am I? Well tell that to old moses at LP. And about two hundred others as well.
Listen buddy, I'm RH, that's all.
I wouldn't be a leftist or a bloody rightist. Because they're donkeys, all of them.
Wake up! Britain's navy thrashed the French and Spanish time after time. That's all they needed to do.
And haven't you heard of Waterloo?
Shit! What's an education done for you. Fuck all. Crammed cliches into your block, that's all. "...self loathing historical revision...blab blab blab blab..."
Hell!- you're like Brunswick Street on Sunday morning!
Get some talent. Get some sense. Get something to say that's bloody interesting!
Mr Jericho - 1.did I see you take your education on an outing to 'Who Want To Be A MeOnAir' and come home with the big cheque?
2. you have not thrashed RH as you claim. Instead you fell right into his challenge to 'tell us something interestin' - you did just that.
Jericho, you are an enormous bore! Stupendous!
I've seen few like you.
Where the hell do I say Waterloo was a sea battle?
And have you ever heard of Nelson? Or of Drake?
I leave fine stupid points of history to professors, academics, and tedious people like you who pride themselves on knowing what Napoleon had for lunch on 15th Feb i809. The fact is Britain's naval superiority is what got it an empire.
So how come you don't know that? I'm astonished.
Pedants like you are always good at saying how you've annihilated someone else, but all that you really do annihilate - with your endlessly constipated prattle, is any interest in yourselves.
And Mr Jericho, you can't complain of an ad hominem attack. -Not when you so blatantly invite it upon yourself.
Something tells me Mr Jericho doesn't like Muslims. I must take issue, however, with the following:
"Their culture is not challenged, or even written about in the newspapers (for fear of Muslim violence) so the critical debate that was so essential to the development of Christian society never happens to them."
What? Islam is written about constantly in the papers, especially since September 11. Much of the commentary is negative, of course, if you glance at the musings of Bolt, Ackerman, Devine, Henderson, Albrechtsen, and many of the Murdoch editorials. (That's to say nothing of the "Letters to the Editor" columns.) And, despite Muslims having lived in Australia all this time, not one newspaper office has been burnt down, and not one journalist or pundit has been killed. There has been criticism of the negative commentary, of course, but that is the nature of dialogue and debate in a liberal democracy.
So cheer up, Mike :) And might I suggest you get to know a few Aussie Muslims? The Muslims I know (when they aren't purchasing large quantities of fertiliser and taking photographs of significant infrastructure) just want to work, raise families (EEEK!) and live in suburbia. Very Aspirational Australia.
They prefer soccer to Aussie Rules, but that's hardly seditious, is it?
Good grief! I'm no scholar, just a reader, and Steynes avoidance of these other factors: national character, ect, has got to be dishonest.
I withdraw personal remarks against you, but golly, don't say you've annihilated me. You haven't. Don't sound so smug, it does you no good.
I've taken a squiz at your blog, and you've sure got a dirty on Muslims. You seem devoted to it. But that's your business, I don't care. I only care when ridiculous things are said about me.
People prefer to live among their own kind. I'm no different. But I can live in harmony with other nationalities, so long as they don't expect me to change to suit them. I'm proud to be of British ancestry.
And will apologise for that to no one.
Yes jericho, the carrot over stick thing you completely ignored and which utterly trumps the woman-hating garbage coming from the far right now, most bizarrely, as some sort of security argument!?
I'm not repeating it, it stands, clearly irrefutable by the finest minds the right can muster.
Steyn is a skunk.
Now...the ills of the west cannot be compared with the ills of islam??
Really?
Like in the balkans, where the muslims were all bloodthirsty hate kill murder ...*yawn* while the god fearing christians did civilised things like using mass rape as a weapon of war or making men bite each other's balls off alive before shooting them.
Our 'civilisation' didn't really give the world thousands of years of anti semitism culminating in genocide in europe, did it? That was muslims dropping out of the fucking sky was it?
Geez, priceless.
Steyn's theory is one of the stupidest bits of rot I've ever seen.
The daft notion that overcrowding ("superfluous population") can make a particular nation world-beaters! What tripe. If that were the case we'd all be chinese. Or Japanese.
Japan was enormously overpopulated in the early part of last century, but all their endeavours to expand failed.
There is one huge reason for Britain's expansion in the 18th and 19th centuries, and that reason is Coal. And the resultant technology.
And Jericho, Britain didn't always have to stage a battle to colonise foreign lands (although its troops and military strategy were first rate). Nor did it need to do a lot to make it's coloured folks behave. Gunboat Diplomacy was enough.
I strongly doubt what you say about Waterloo. I'd doubt anything you say in that regard at all.
So here's some RH advice; the worst thing you can do in presenting any argument is to be too dishonest about it. You leave gaping holes. Holes people can poke their heads through and laugh. This thing from Steyn is amazingly stupid.
It's so bad in fact, and so utterly ridiculous, it would even shame Tim Blair.
What gets me most, is this gangster,Steyn, deliberately ignores the Industrial Revolution. It began in Britain, and drove its need for colonies.
Mike, I started off being wary of you.
But golly, you're a character!
On a slight tangent . . .
The defeat of Nazi Germany? Didn't the USSR play a minor role in that as well?
="I just pointed out that - at the same time as the concentration camps - young men and women were dying to try to bring that to an end."=
Sorry Jericho, you can't run any sort of argument that either the western allies or the russians were in that war to prevent the shoah.
They would have let the jews die, to a man, to a child, had hitler not embarked on an aggressive war at the same time.
Steyn IS a skunk this is my site and I'll call him what I will. If I went to a conservative site and started treating a loony extreme islamic cleric like he had wisdom to share I dare say there'd be a similar response multiplied by 100.
And I'm pretty up on who did what in the balkans, cheers, and attempts to string together the handful of barbaric incidents at the hands of muslims with the scores of genocidal incidents and crimes against humanity perpetrated by the serbs are unsustainable.
Nice point flatcat.
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