Tuesday, July 18, 2006

4 out of 200: Not bad for a week's killing

Israel's winning the genocide, losing the war:

Earlier, at least 51 people were killed in Israeli strikes in Lebanon and 10 more bodies found, pushing the death toll from the Israeli offensive to more than 200 over the past six days.

Separately, Hezbollah announced the death of one of its fighters, bringing to four the Shi'ite militant group's losses since the start of hostilities.

FOUR??

Four members of Hezbollah out of over 200 dead, and the Right continue to claim this is carefully targeted self defence?

Here's an image which the Right would use to 'prove' that all Muslims are hateful terrorists in the making, if only it showed Muslims:


Messages in Hebrew for the kids about to be blown to pieces at the other end, hat tip SMH.

13 comments:

JahTeh said...

I find this image so obscene that it should never be given publicity. This is how this stupid conflict will be perpetuated, by indoctrinating children and by both sides doing so.

Daniel said...

This photograph should be condemned by every decent human being (of which there are few). It just shows to the world that Israel is no better then those it calls its enemies.

It is a disgusting indictment of what happens when religious fanaticism and extreme nationalism combine. Israel is no exception. In fact it is a world leader in extremism and barbarity!

Unknown said...

Thanks for the tu quoque apology, splatterbrain.

Pat, the Sydney Morning Herald is not Hezbollah. Yawn. But I can understand why you'd try to divert attention away from the issue at hand. It is rather embarrassing for your political position.

Armagnac Esq said...

You're right, really, Pat and Splatts' best defence of this obscenity is a rather childish 'but maaa, they do it too'.

C'mon, demonstrate that you have some boundaries, some lines you'll admit shouldn't be crossed.

Armagnac Esq said...

I don't appreciate being falsely accused of taking sides with groups who, if you read just a bit of my blog and my comments elsewhere, you would know I condemn clearly as terrorists.

I do also appreciate the difference between targetting military and targetting civilians.

The killing you refer to is nasty, and I do condemn it. I also condemn your attempt to find parity between the slaughter of hundreds of civilians and the killing of a trainee soldier.

I'm pretty tolerant but if you accuse me again of being on Hizbollah's side I'll hit the delete button.

You might want to note that I'm one of the few bloggers who, while running strong condemnation of Israel's current actions, has written a post where I agree that they are in an invidious position and attempted to find some middle ground.

Ease off the sneering references to tards and ott allegations, thanks.

Armagnac Esq said...

"disproportionate responses"

*boom boom*

A fair reply. Doling it out heavily on the issue, or against lefties in a blanket fashion, is ok to a fair stretch of a point.

I found that particular slur OTT, however I haven't deleted in, just flagged that I may have limits in my tolerance there.

Guy can do as he pleases at Polemica, likewise moi and this site.

As to the substance, I do acknowledge that was a preliminary stat, I will hunt for updates where I can find them.

If I was 100% anti Israel then I wouldn't have made out an argument on a previous post (which has been linked by Harry, a leading pro Israel site) for why they may be justified building a wall, creating buffer zones etc.

Armagnac Esq said...

Well argued, and much of what's there I agree with.

The Gaza withdrawal is a damning indictment of both Israel's enemies and those who try to apologise for them.

It has made me conclude that some small buffer would be a legitimate unilateral response, and you won't find many lefties saying that.

A buffer by definition would not be used to create settlements, it should be added.

And while SB correctly points out that they'd have to take hundreds of kms to put the rockets out of range, I believe even a few kms of territory would allow them to develop their anti rocket capabilities to a fairly protective level.

Terrorists are such fuckers to deal with because they do not play by the rules, and have themselves no moral boundaries. Which is precisely why there is no advantage, in my view, to making genuinely innocent civilians pay for their crimes.

I like Belmont, will check it out...

PS Pat you are always welcome to comment here.

cristy said...

That is a truly disturbing image. I pity those poor children, who cannot truly understand what they are doing, but whose minds and attitudes will be shaped by those of their politicians, parents and the actions that they are told to commit.

What kind of future do you have when you train a child to participate in the killing of innocents?

JahTeh said...

Thank you cristy for getting back to the point I originally commented on. The children of all sides of this insanity are the ones who will pay the greatest price.

Daniel said...

The slaughter of civilians and the destruction that is going on all over Lebanon has little to do with rockets. It has to do with Israel's newest attempt to dominate the whole region using brute force. Syria will be next followed by Iran.

Israel, supported and armed by America, will stop at nothing to fulfil its fanatical ambitions. If these are "The Children of God" then it doesn't say much about either their God or religion in general!

Armagnac Esq said...

Read the update on the same post Splatts... it was, as I originally suspected, the PARENTS of the kids who set it up.

Armagnac Esq said...

Oh yes we agree on that, the problem IS with the adults. On both sides.

And it's these little ones who will be suffering if (as seems more than likely) nothing has changed in 10,20,30 years.

Armagnac Esq said...

No probs, I aim to maintain a friendly blog!